Fox News Puppet Priest?

The FOX puppet priest or Americanist?

Having largely roped in Evangelicals, the GOP and their spokesman, FOX News, also apparently has a priest to help continue the work of Deal Hudson and the White House Office of Roping in Catholics. Rove at his evil finest.

Please read the above linked article. Lets review the article noting but a few points Fr. Morris (who calls himself Father Jonathan-a first name New Church fad).

FJ: Common sense — and a little history — tell us there should also be a certain and well-defined separation between church and state.

CR- The fact that the Founding Fathers were divided into several religious groups is neither Godly, nor deigned by Christ. A good article :

http://www.catholicintl.com/noncatholicissues/failed-print.htm
A few quotes: In place of the Christian commonwealth, Liberty has erected a market-driven “culture of rights,” founded on the fiction of the isolated individual in a mythical pre-social, pre-religious state of nature, who is said to possess “rights” abstracted from any divine ordination to life in the State or any collective social duty to God. These “rights” are merely elaborate explications of Liberty’s one commandment: thou shalt not interfere in human action. Denying any ordination of the State to an objective common good conformable to Christ and eternal beatitude, the culture of rights has led to a tyranny of public opinion, enforced by despotic popular regimes which crush any attempt to secure true freedom through restoration of the Christian moral order, with its divinely ordained limits on human action and its positive duties in justice and charity toward one’s fellow man.

Under such conditions the pursuit of any common good in the State is impossible, and society becomes a mere arena for the pursuit of what each individual deems his proper good, without regard for the total impact of these individual pursuits on life in society as a whole. Thus Christians are forced to live in a global, free-market Gomorrah in which a trip to the supermarket invites an attack upon the innocence of their children, which is assaulted on every side. The culture of rights has produced a culture of death—physical, moral and spiritual—that oppresses not only the Christian life, but truth, beauty and goodness themselves.

FJ: That’s why we need more than a gut to balance out these two competing interests; religious liberty and the neutrality of government. Once again, we need principles for decision-making.

CR: The culture of the United States has from its inception been Protestant. The presumed right of private judgment and not the revealed Truth of God as taught by the Catholic Church has been the formative principle of our society, the backdrop to our lives. But Protestantism only derives whatever good it possesses from the measure of Catholic truth it retains (http://www.fisheaters.com/livingthefaithinexile.html).

But the main engine driving us toward a neutral culture is not the odd national crisis but the general mania for sports and all manner of entertainment that eliminates religion as an integral part of life. Few characters in television or film or on the playing fields are depicted as having any particular faith. Should religion make a rare appearance in a sitcom or on the silver screen it is invariably vague and cloyingly saccharine; for the most part, it's entirely absent. One sees little of it on ESPN. So as we partake of the standard entertainments and pastimes of our age, we become accustomed to living in a spiritually sterile world (http://www.fisheaters.com/livingthefaithinexile.html).

FJ: • Public institutions (city halls, courts, schools, etc.) should not be forbidden to showcase religious symbols as expressions of culture. They must do this, however, in a way that communicates freedom to choose one’s own religion.

CR: Really? Where is this right? As many feel the 10 Commandments are not allowing this “freedom”, should we then take them down as offensive to the hedonist? This view is certainly not held by Mother Church:

Pope Pius IX, Quanta Cura (#'s 3-6), Dec. 8, 1864, ex cathedra:

"From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our predecessor, Gregory XVI, an insanity, NAMELY, THAT 'LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE AND WORSHIP IS EACH MAN'S PERSONAL RIGHT, WHICH OUGHT TO BE LEGALLY PROCLAIMED AND ASSERTED IN EVERY RIGHTLY CONSTITUTED SOCIETY.' But while they rashly affirm this, they do not understand and note that they are preaching liberty of perdition. Therefore, BY OUR APOSTOLIC AUTHORITY, WE REPROBATE, PROSCRIBE, AND CONDEMN ALL THE SINGULAR AND EVIL OPINIONS AND DOCTRINES SPECIALLY MENTIONED IN THIS LETTER, AND WILL AND COMMAND THAT THEY BE THOROUGHLY HELD BY ALL THE CHILDREN OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS REPROBATED, PROSCRIBED AND CONDEMNED."

Robert Sungenis-The truth is that Quanta Cura is condemning the notion that an individual has the right, morally speaking, to form his own conscience any way he desires, without recourse to natural law or Church teaching, or has the right, morally speaking, to worship any god he chooses; and that because of the so-called moral right, it should also be a civil right.
Vatican II, on the other hand, is not concerned with the moral issues of "conscience" and "worship" but with the civil issue of "religious freedom," a term specifically chosen to differentiate civil rights from moral rights. This can be gleaned very quickly from the negative judgment Vatican II's documents cast upon any coercion by civil government to foster a religion of its own choosing on its people. Vatican II says that such governmental intrusion is unlawful and against divine mandate.

Some more refutations-
http://www.fisheaters.com/libertas.html




FJ: The surest way to do this is through the message of pluralism — showing symbols of the various creeds represented in the community (the decision of the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals of February 16, 1999 reasons this point perfectly).

CR- So, we can show the false “god” Allah? How about Hindu “Gods”? Buddha?? Talmud, with its blashphemes against Christ and vile insults to Our Lady? A good refutation is

http://www.fisheaters.com/mediatordei.html

Pope LeoXIII in his Encyclical
The rule of life laid down for Catholics is not of such a nature that it cannot accommodate itself to the exigencies of various times and places. (VOL. XXIV-13.) The Church has, guided by her Divine Master, a kind and merciful spirit, for which reason from the very beginning she has been what St. Paul said of himself: "I became all things to all men that I might save all."

These dangers, viz., the confounding of license with liberty, the passion for discussing and pouring contempt upon any possible subject, the assumed right to hold whatever opinions one pleases upon any subject and to set them forth in print to the world, have so wrapped minds in darkness that there is now a greater need of the Church's teaching office than ever before, lest people become unmindful both of conscience and of duty.

From the foregoing it is manifest, beloved son, that we are not able to give approval to those views which, in their collective sense, are called by some "Americanism." But if by this name are to be understood certain endowments of mind which belong to the American people, just as other characteristics belong to various other nations, and if, moreover, by it is designated your political condition and the laws and customs by which you are governed, there is no reason to take exception to the name. But if this is to be so understood that the doctrines which have been adverted to above are not only indicated, but exalted, there can be no manner of doubt that our venerable brethren, the bishops of America, would be the first to repudiate and condemn it as being most injurious to themselves and to their country. For it would give rise to the suspicion that there are among you some who conceive and would have the Church in America to be different from what it is in the rest of the world.

Another good point is - http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=5456

A few points-
However, liberty and equality are, so to speak, no more than a negative side. The distinctive and positive aspect of Democracy is to be found in the largest possible participation of everyone in the government of public affairs.

We fear that worse is to come: the end result of this developing promiscuousness, the beneficiary of this cosmopolitan social action, can only be a Democracy which will be neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Jewish. It will be a religion (for Sillonism, so the leaders have said, is a religion) more universal than the Catholic Church, uniting all men become brothers and comrades at last in the "Kingdom of God". - "We do not work for the Church, we work for mankind."



FJ: If we allow radicals to rid the public square of religion expression, we will not be a more tolerant, pluralistic, or diverse country. We will, in fact, be much like the regimes of past and present, who in the name of progress, have emptied culture of its richest forms only to fill it with ideologies of one kind or another.

CR-again, a balance between radical jihadist mentality, but also against secularism and pluralism. Tolerance and pluralism are not Catholic, they are a modus operandi of the anti-Church and resultant degeneration from the “reformation” to Masons to the “democratic” age. You Ok, I Ok. I see the spirit of Americanism is still alive and well, as Fr. “Jonathan” is much to busy carving out a place for New Church in equal par with the pluralistic Heathens and pagans-wait, this may not be respectful of others creeds, etc.

Silly me and silly Paul: 1Cor 10: [19] What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? [20] No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be partners with demons. [21] You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. [22] Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?

Pope Leo XIII noted this in Sapientiae Christianae, January 10, 1890:

The chief elements of this duty consist in professing openly and unflinchingly the Catholic doctrine, and in propagating it to the utmost of our power. For, as is often said, with the greatest truth, there is nothing so hurtful to Christian wisdom as that it should not be known, since it possesses, when loyally received, inherent power to drive away error. So soon as Catholic truth is apprehended by a simple and unprejudiced soul, reason yields assent.

• E-mail Father Jonathan

Tell him:

1 Corinthians 1
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews indeed a stumblingblock, and unto the Gentiles foolishness:

Romans 12
2 And be not conformed to this world; but be reformed in the newness of your mind, that you may prove what is the good, and the acceptable, and the perfect will of God.

Galatians 5
1 Stand fast, and be not held again under the yoke of bondage.